Which automotive manufacturer will see the biggest INCREASE in sales volume in 2011?
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Permalink Reply by Tom Gorham on
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Phil, again I agree with you. But the topic was/is "Which automotive manufacturer will see the biggest INCREASE in sales volume in 2011?" and so it's not entirely off topic. Given that GMs IPO is open to any and all investors including foreign investors, it's a real concern. But GM DID invest in US factories in the past year with some pledges to keep manufacturing in the US. So all I can say is, we'll see... For me the real concern is that the US is on a downward trend economically... ooops, there I go again, off topic.
Philip Zelinger said:Thanks Tom. Unfortunately, your confirmation is my concern as it relates to this post which I assume is focused on opportunities for US dealers. Today's Automotive News referenced the fact that China has surpassed the US in sales and my concern is that GM resources may/will be redirected to where the market -- and the money is! Add in the monetary pressures that I see as a result of our monetizing our debt and I am concerned that GM will forget their birthplace and shift to the one world economy and governance that our present administration is calling for with their transnational policies and priorities to redistribute the/our wealth away from the US to developing countries.
Tom Gorham said:Hi Phil, You made some very valid points and I think all companies realize there is a huge market outside of the USA. And I'm not just talking about Chica but other emerging countries such as India and Brazil. That's one of the reasons I think GM will do well as they have a good start in these countries (especially China). VW is number one in China among imports right now is a true contender. The Japanese are handicapped (as I mentioned before) by history and politics. I've been in china a couple times and there is a lot of animosity toward Japan, and the recent arguments over islands isn't helping. On the other hand, GM is very popular. We recently hosted some managers from Shanghai GM and I was very impressed with how they want to train their dealer body. Whoops, now I'm off the subgect. Sorry...
Philip Zelinger said:Hey Guys, I don't want to change the subject but given the results of the G20 and the trade agreements with South Korea that slapped us on the wrist for devaluing our dollar through monetization of our debt and continued deficit spending combined with the 600 Billion of new monetization of our debt and the current inflation and devaluatiion of the dollar do we really think that the imports won't find a larger market and profit margin selling vehicles elsewhere without suffering the exchange rates? Add to that the increasing costs of imported components in our Domestic vehicles as well as the import vehicless themselves as a result of a devalued dollar with the threat of the EPA forcing an increase in manufactured goods in America even if Cap And Trade isn't passed and do you really think that the Import OEM's won't be impacted?? Again, not changing the subject but they are in business to make money -- not sell cars. Just a thought..
maria zarkadas said:VW
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Permalink Reply by tom cregg on -
i think VW will be moving up fast as the year goes on and Ford. As long as Gas prices dont rise much that is.
Think The Hyundais and KIA brands will continue steady progress though.
Manufacturers need margins to go up, service volume to increase and inventory kept low so it may be a gradual rise for anyone doing well.
Tom Cregg
Ex Mercedes-Benz HQ
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Permalink Reply by Ganesan Ramaswamy on
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Ford & GM - USA, Hyundai & Kia from Korea would be the major player and see the biggest increase in sales volume in 2011.
Reason : Ford & GM is customer focused now with new models!
Hyundai & Kia are very aggressive in marketing and with latest new models along with more features.
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Korean brands (Hyundai and Kia) will see the major growth followed by Ford and GM in USA.
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Permalink Reply by Bill Goodfriend on
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Subaru. Mark my words on this.
Philip Zelinger said:Thanks Tom. Unfortunately, your confirmation is my concern as it relates to this post which I assume is focused on opportunities for US dealers. Today's Automotive News referenced the fact that China has surpassed the US in sales and my concern is that GM resources may/will be redirected to where the market -- and the money is! Add in the monetary pressures that I see as a result of our monetizing our debt and I am concerned that GM will forget their birthplace and shift to the one world economy and governance that our present administration is calling for with their transnational policies and priorities to redistribute the/our wealth away from the US to developing countries.
Tom Gorham said:Hi Phil, You made some very valid points and I think all companies realize there is a huge market outside of the USA. And I'm not just talking about Chica but other emerging countries such as India and Brazil. That's one of the reasons I think GM will do well as they have a good start in these countries (especially China). VW is number one in China among imports right now is a true contender. The Japanese are handicapped (as I mentioned before) by history and politics. I've been in china a couple times and there is a lot of animosity toward Japan, and the recent arguments over islands isn't helping. On the other hand, GM is very popular. We recently hosted some managers from Shanghai GM and I was very impressed with how they want to train their dealer body. Whoops, now I'm off the subgect. Sorry...
Philip Zelinger said:Hey Guys, I don't want to change the subject but given the results of the G20 and the trade agreements with South Korea that slapped us on the wrist for devaluing our dollar through monetization of our debt and continued deficit spending combined with the 600 Billion of new monetization of our debt and the current inflation and devaluatiion of the dollar do we really think that the imports won't find a larger market and profit margin selling vehicles elsewhere without suffering the exchange rates? Add to that the increasing costs of imported components in our Domestic vehicles as well as the import vehicless themselves as a result of a devalued dollar with the threat of the EPA forcing an increase in manufactured goods in America even if Cap And Trade isn't passed and do you really think that the Import OEM's won't be impacted?? Again, not changing the subject but they are in business to make money -- not sell cars. Just a thought..
maria zarkadas said:VW
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Permalink Reply by Michael Deville on
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Honda will be the volume leader. The quality of product and the quality of customer along with new product will explode in 2011!
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Permalink Reply by Don Shrewsbury on
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I would traditionally think Hyundai, but given their growth in 2010 I would suspect it could be difficult for them to repeat. VW for me is the dark horse here. They have major market share around the world with the exception of the US. I believe they will shift a considerable amount of focus and resoursces on the US market in 2011 and give them the title of biggest increase.
Coming off of a particularly poor performance in 2010 Toyota will also make great strides in sales volume. If anyone thinks they are going to continue to sit around and get kicked in the teeth without a fight will be in for a surprise.
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Permalink Reply by rhys walton on
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hyundai and then kia
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Permalink Reply by Bob Gaber on
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Bottom line everyone, Ford has had the best press and they have backed it up, GM, while not back to pre 08 standards is making a comeback, but if we are talking Global, and quite frankly we tend to be myopic when it comes to anything else other than "US" you have to look at both China and India. Has anyone looked at what has been going on with VW making in roads into China? Has anyone seen the new car that India has produced? The world is smaller and we can do one of three things, lead, follow or get out of the way. What do you gentleman want to do? Spend time "discussing" what is going on, or participate in the growth?
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Permalink Reply by Skip Shakely on
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Kia and Hyundai
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Permalink Reply by Katie Colihan on
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Isuzu.
Bad joke. Sorry.
I really think we'll see some Ford action.
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Permalink Reply by Terry A Powell on
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I think this is a good analysis in the US market.
Ramaswamy Ganesan said:Ford & GM - USA, Hyundai & Kia from Korea would be the major player and see the biggest increase in sales volume in 2011.
Reason : Ford & GM is customer focused now with new models!
Hyundai & Kia are very aggressive in marketing and with latest new models along with more features.
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