I joined dealerElite in July of this year. The purpose was twofold. The first was to let the Dealerland community know via the NET that I had written a book, DUH! and secondly to share my thirty –two years experience as a controller, the one person who sees it all in a dealership.

Since joining dealerElite I have participated and shared with members, posts, discussions, photos and joined 2 groups (mistakenly).

I am new to the social media, networking arena, still haven’t completely figured it out but am learning fast. With that said, I would like to share some thoughts and observations since I joined dealerElite.

First, this is fun. One gets to share thoughts and dialog with industry folks.

Secondly, why is it necessary to have groups? As of this writing there are 3,476 dealerElite members with 710 members belonging to 31 groups. That means 20% of total membership belongs to a group - the 80/20 rule? Not really, some folks belong to many groups.

Anywho, recently Nancy Simmons posted, “What do you like about the car business? … and why?” - a great topic. It is a topic that perked my interest and off to the keyboard I went to add a comment. After laboring with English 101 to put my thoughts together and typing a comment, I hit the reply button and up jumped “You need to join this group to post to this forum”. Huh! and Why? I don’t get it. Maybe it’s a networking thing. I have never been a group joiner. If I were to join a group it would be to participate and contribute. From what I have gleaned many group members are silent. So why bother.

If there are posts by a member of the 31 groups and one would like to comment, then one needs to join 31 groups. Again, why? A dealership is a complex entity where decisions made in one department could crossover and effect another department. A decision in the service department could have an adverse reaction in the used vehicle department. So, why does a front end person need to join a fixed operation group to comment how a decision may effect the sales department? My personal preference is open discussions.

In an open discussion, Bobby Compton wrote about spiffs and Manny Luna added a comment. I then added a comment. Manny replied and it looked like I had stepped in his mess kit. After adding another comment to clarify my position, we were not really in disagreement. It was just a matter of semantics. The point being that if Mr. Compton had posted “Spiffs” in a group and either Mr. Luna or myself were not a member of the group there would not have been a discussion. How many other members do not comment because they have to join a group? Or is it just me? Sometimes it is not what is being said, but what is not being said.

Without doing an analysis, where are the dealers, managers, fixed operations, and other dealership folks. The silence is deafening. Maybe they are tucked away in the groups. From what I can glean posts and discussions are heavily weighted with conversation about the front end. What about the rest of the store. I am looking at a twenty group composite and 60% of the gross is generated by the front end and 40% from fixed operations. Yet, fixed operations voice seems to be minimal in the blogs and forums. Wonder why?

Sure am glad to see dealerElite do away with the “Who’s the Best” category. I have always thought, if you need to run around campaigning you are the best - THEN YA AIN”T. The Best let others make that call.

Well I am done pontificating and leave with this thought, even in the Rust Years an old dog can learn new tricks. When one stops learning it is time to pack it up.

Have a good day!

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Comment by Douglas R Manley on October 7, 2010 at 3:59pm
Chip,

Thank you for your comment. 152 pages and 24 chapters of taking no prisoners and telling it like it is. A fun write and I am told a fun read.
Comment by Chip King on October 7, 2010 at 3:28pm
Checked your book out---this badge of success is to real!--"It’s human nature to be liked by other humans unless you’re Charles Manson. Throughout my career there were times when I wondered if I was really doing my job. Was I maximizing my God given talent? Where was the report card? Was it when the Tick People did their magic at year end? Was it the attaboys? Nope.

It was when the employees emblazoned derogatory comments and names over the urinals and in the stalls in the boys and girls potty rooms; names like Hitler, Attila, Jerk and of course – the ultimate compliment – “hemorrhoid tissue.” Until that day arrived, then and only then could I stand on the rooftop and shout, “YAHOO!” Yesterday I couldn’t spell it and today I am Urinal Man aka, controller. Of course a lady controller could be referred to as Stall Door Lady…"
Comment by Douglas R Manley on October 7, 2010 at 3:16pm
Chip, Dan, Nancy, AAron and Craig, Thank you for your input.

There is really some good stuff out there and shouldn't be cocooned. (That's a Manley word.)

A little bravado is OK. With an emphasis on - A Little.
Comment by Chip King on October 7, 2010 at 9:28am
1000%...The Groups prevent instead of promote....one guys opinion. This is a great forum, and I get a ton of value by reading the thoughts of so many that are passionate enough to share.
Comment by Douglas R Manley on October 6, 2010 at 3:08pm
Nancy:
You can get DUH! at my website dumbdealer.com. Just joined Carbucks. An have you read my post today.

MY WAY - Are you closed yet? Why not? As a controller you might get a kick out of it. You will definitely understand it more than most.
Comment by NANCY SIMMONS on October 6, 2010 at 1:59pm
Doug....Two things for you...1. How do I buy your book? And 2...Will you join Carbucks??? LOL
Comment by aaron kominsky on October 6, 2010 at 10:44am
Mr Manley I have just one word KUDDOS Bragging is unreal here your talent shows everybody knows that simple
Comment by Craig Lockerd on October 6, 2010 at 10:39am
Mr. Manley I agree with you 100%

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