TRUE CAR and ZAG Cyber Bandits, Parasites or Good for the Car Business?

Jim Ziegler asks...

I am hearing a lot of discussion about True Car and ZAG.  I continually scratch my head and wonder if  desperate dealers are doing the marketing limbo "How Low Can You Go?" 

Are we so bad at what we do that we have to line up and pay vendors to lose money? AND, who is giving these people access to your data that is used against you? 

 

Who owns these companies and what might be their ulterior motive?  Sometimes I ask questions to which I already know the answer. 

 

Am I wrong?


What do you think... JIM

 

 

Jim Ziegler's Guidance and Recommended Action Plan:

Ten Areas We Need to Concentrate on to Bring This Monster to It's Knees...

  1. Government investigation of ALL Data Aggregators taking consumer information from dealers' DMS. Sadly enough, dealers who do business with TrueCar are exposed to  liability charges. Cut off all access to unecessary data, no matter who takes it from the dealers DMS and make it illegal to "resell identifiable consumer data" and "transactional data".
  2. Educate Your Fellow Dealers; If anyone takes financial transactional data, they expose the dealer that allowed it to violations, especially if it is passed on to other vendors or shared.
  3. Educate Consumers to what they're doing with their information...
    a. You buy a car from a dealer, do you really want your personal information, and maybe even your financial information, passed along and sold and shared by "God knows who?"
    b. These People Charge the Dealer $300 which the dealers have to build into the deal
    c. Your Privacy and the Security of your Information could theoretically compromise your identity if you do business a company that takes data from the dealership.
  4. Educate Investors and potential investors they could possibly be mislead if anyone is telling them this is a safe investment because of all of the dealers pushing back, associations pushing back, and government regulators in many states coming after TrueCar's business model as NOT compliant, in some cases they're saying it is Not Legal.
  5. AMEX, USAA and all of their affiliates do not want the bad consumer relations this push back is creating with their members and customers.
  6. Cancel your dealership's Affilation with TrueCar. Tell people with TrueCar certificates that YOU don't honor TrueCar and you feel the company is NOT reputable. Educate consumers as to perceived data exposure if they buy from a TrueCar dealer. Make sure that each consumer knows that using TrueCar actually increases their vehicle cost by $300 to $400.
  7. Make the dealers selling at huge losses take all of those deals. Big problem right now is too many Nissan Dealers and others are taking huge losers to get the factory money. The TrueCar reverse-auction business model will continually push those numbers down until the factory money is non-existent. Consumers need to hear from many dealers, "We don't do TrueCar"
  8. Keep calling your National and State Dealer Associations demanding they get involved and stay involved... No excuses.
  9. Get the Manufacturers into the game. If GM, Ford, Toyota, and other majors change the rules about how we advertise and do business to protect the dealers, we can cut off their ability to set pricing. So keep it up at every dealer meeting. Call your Dealer Council Members and protest to your factory reps. Tell the manufacturers, if they want showroom and facility improvements, we need the ability to make fair profits.
  10. Tell everyone you know. Educate other dealers and industry people. Watch the Painter interviews... I believe this is the first time a vendor has publicly announced they intend to bring down the dealers and hijack our business, taking our profits and starving us out with our own data. Painter has said manufacturers and dealers should go bankrupt and he, in his God-like way "will control distribution..."
    When the TrueCar-Yahoo Deal kicks in we need to stand firm and "Just Say No" we don't honor TrueCar deals.

Read this article as a referencehttp://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=%2F20110831%2FFIN... 

AND, if you doubt the mission... read this...  http://www.zag.com/websiteASSETS/whitepapers/ZAG-WhitePaper3.pdf

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Comment by Thomas A. Kelly on February 6, 2012 at 4:20am


TrueCar......still yet another change.... TRUECAR STOPS OFFERING DEALER PRICES ONLINE ..........If and when their model evolves to be "RIGHT" for the consumer and "RIGHT" for the dealer I suspect neither will find value or will be willing to pay a fee.

http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=%2F20120204%2FRET...
www.autonews.com


Comment by Thomas A. Kelly on February 5, 2012 at 11:06am

Group One CEO, Earl Hesterberg, Speaks at NADA about TrueCar. His comments start at 2:01.

http://www.autonews.com/ANplayer.html?bcpid=1417302180&bclid=90...

Comment by James A. Ziegler on February 4, 2012 at 5:41pm

It is so gratifying so many dealers and managers stopped me at the convention thanked me for my leadership in the TrueCar fight

Comment by Michael Timmons on February 3, 2012 at 4:56pm

Thank you. Best wishes for a great year for you and yours as well

Comment by Thomas A. Kelly on February 3, 2012 at 4:54pm

You will have your hands full, love 'em and squeeze 'em every chance you get..... time will go fast and there aren't any redos. Best of everything to you and your family sir.

Comment by Michael Timmons on February 3, 2012 at 4:49pm

Thanks Thomas. I agree, although I may not be thinking that as much when they both turn 13 this year :)

Comment by Thomas A. Kelly on February 3, 2012 at 4:46pm

Have a good trip Michael.....all kids are terrific but twins are special!

Comment by Michael Timmons on February 3, 2012 at 4:44pm

@ Tom I was hoping it wasn't me dying....my wife and twin daughters do expect me home after the convention.

Comment by Thomas A. Kelly on February 3, 2012 at 4:41pm

I am metaphorically referring of course to the demise of TrueCar in my previous post.....

Comment by Keith Shetterly on February 3, 2012 at 4:37pm

@ Michael.  It is easy to look folks up nowadays; it's also easy to get bogus information if you look stuff up. 

I wish you much success, Michael.

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